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. boehner, your side lost. romney, remember him? he's the guy who ran on the rich man's platform. the hands off the big boys' ticket. he's the guy who said his fellow 2%ers have your back. mr. boehner, ye of limited memory, the voters looked this issue directly in the eye, they heard your guy, romney, playing palace guard for the plutocrats and they said i think i'll vote for the guy who is looking out for the middle class. i think i will let that guy go back to bain or whatever. time for mr. baoehner to stop protecting the rich. joy reid is managing editor of the grio and david corn is washington bureau chief for mother jones and the author of the ebook "47% percent." today the president took his pitch to a factory in the philadelphia suburbs and he made clear the rich must pay their fair share. obama's job number one, a tax cut for the 98%. the rest of the people. let's listen to him. >> it's not acceptable to me and i don't think it's acceptable to you for just a handful of republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts hostage simply because they don't want tax rates on upper inc
. >> it might happen, i was curious with president and mitt romney having lunch, whether obama presented him a bill for lunch, and added a 40% gra % gra on it. neil: they had turkey chili. >> let me tell you. one thing we have to do, i work in my 7 industry, we have to figure out a way to do comprehensive tax reform. doing a lot of act before we get there. >> not one major candidate mentioned that once. that is what vi got to do for the good of america. neil: when we come back, you bailed out gm, now general motors is doling out big bucks to create jobs-in china. the judge on whether shanghai and taxpayer money circ len is even legal. what's next? he's going to apply testosterone to his underarm. axiron, the only underarm treatment for low t, can restore testosterone levels back to normal in most men. axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18. axiron can transfer to others through direct contact. women, especially those who are or who may become pregna, and children should avoid contact where axiron is applied as unexpected sis of puberty in children or changes in body hair or
with some grave robbing. we're going down into the dark, cold tomb of the late romney campaign. we're going to excavate the murky truths that were the living heart and mind of the defeated republican effort. going to exhume tonight the guts of the thinking that went on and went so wrong. tonight, we get what we only guessed at, the results of which played out in the numbers of election night. the nasty, anti-immigrant politics, the attitude toward that 47%, the failure to turn out the white male vote, the reason romney picked ryan, and the wild prelude to the clint eastwood performance. tonight right here on "hardball," the dark aroma of what lies now beneath the dirt so we can understand what it looks like to think and feel your way into an historic disaster. with me are jeff zeleny with "the new york times" and susan milligan who is contributing editor at "u.s. news & world report." you laugh. it's not funny. you both attended that harvard institute of policy forum. last week with top advisers from both the obama and romney campaigns. they just released, by the way, tonight, we have the a
's a combination of the ryan budget, and what romney -- governor romney began to say toward the end of the election when he was worried a they were being tabbed as the party of the very wealthy, so he said well, we won't lower taxes on the very wealthy, because we'll get ahold of loop holds and deductions but they never said what they were and they continue to evade. but mainly they evade the basic question, are we going to keep the high income tax breaks or are we not? and if they insist on keeping them, they are going to take themselves and the country over the cliff. >> stephanie: uh-huh. this is -- we have been saying -- i don't think this is fooling anybody. they keep putting forth something that looks like the appearance of compromise and it isn't. why does there seem to be no realization of the fact that they lost on this budget issue on their side? >> i think it is because they are in denial. they keep on saying that there was no real election result; that we had a dead lock. >> stephanie: right. and that isn't true. >> stephanie: that's right. well
. and later mitt romney finally got into the white house don't worry, though it was just for a bowl of chili. it's thursday night and we are just getting started stick around. >> jennifer: welcome back inside "the war room." i am jennifer granholm. so the election is long over but the vote counting is is not. and as it stands today the president leads by four and a half million votes. and they haven't even finished counting big big blue california. so does that give him a mandate? i would say so. here to help us breakdown how much of his economic plan he can actually get passed, because of that overwhelming margin of victory, is laura tyson she serves on the president's jobs council, she's the former chair of the your honor council of economic advice ores, also current tv's chair and economic analyst. welcome back to "this week in football." >> pleasure jennifer. >> jennifer: so here we go, i want to yet get your predictions on what the president's plan was today. so the president offered in terms of revenues, brough
, but let me start by--let me go to romney, too. while i'm rolling let's keep on going. the guy who did run for president was mitt romney. and he's now being followed around in california by tmz among other folks. they spotted him at a costco. he has glasses on, a hat on and he's trying to hide. not really working--watch. [ ♪ music ♪ ] [ ♪ music ♪ ] [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> cenk: that's almost kind of sad. that's not the right look for mitt romney. everybody is here. ana kasparian, jayar jackson and michael shure with you guys. so, first of all ana let me just start on the romney thing there. >> sure. >> cenk: man he's corporate look is the look for him. he looked like a creeper in that outfit. now the thing is, my question to you is what would you do if your mitt romney. >> i would do exactly what he's doing now. i think it's funny that people are picking on him and making fun on him. it looks sad because we look at him as this extremely fabulously rich guy who probably doesn't do anything himself. but who doesn't enjoy a trip to costco with a free sample. >> cenk: and he's in la jolla
have evolved it mitt romney had come in, he would have been national security adviser, secretary of the treasury, he was deputy secretary during president bush and happened to be a senior foreign policy ambassador to germany and is one of the very few people who synthesizes the economic and national security in such a holistic way. his dad was a famous democrat who was one of the reasons i moved to washington, really great to have bob here. to michael porter's right ahead douglas holtz-eakin iran the congressional budget office and is a distinguished economist. he was john mccain's economic adviser in the first campaign. he is now running the american action forum. he is one of the best hot shots on fiscal issues but does it kindly and then we have steve case. i wanted to give him chairmanship of the jobs council, jeff immelt had that but not for long. steve case, one of the founders and chairman of aol, he chairs the entrepreneurship council, chairman of revolution, very tied up in trying to think about what are the spark the drive innovation, creativity, how do you drive young
candidates opposed green energy loans for electric vehicles, mitt romney was very outspoken. he wanted to do away with the green energy loan programs that funded things like the nissan leaf. in fact, in 2011, the house republicans almost brought the government to a halt because they wanted to cut about 20% of the programs that allows auto companies to retool plants. so you know, there is a lot of members and as you pointed out earlier in the show, this did become, in part, you know, an anti-obama -- because the president has called for a million evs on the road and republicans, you know, opposed it for a lot of different reasons but one was certainly political. >> jennifer: for example the president and ceo of general motors, dan ackerson is a known republican is the auto industry working republicans to get support for electric vehicles and if they are, how come they're not more successful? is there an oil lobby on the other side of this? >> certainly the oil industry is very powerful. they are out lobbying but remembe
've learned over the years in advertising. >> what's interesting is the romney campaign didn't do it. >> i was about to say, josh, how did that compare with the beached whale of the rnc and the romney campaign officially known as orca? you know, give me some sense here that we had a clue, but i guess not, right? >> well, no. i mean, i think we're talking about two different things here. the obama campaign in general when it came to technology was years more advanced, i'm afraid, than anything the rnc or romney did. maybe that has something to do with your departure, michael. >> i would think so. we can have that conversation, too. >> the obama campaign, not only did they have a staff of 20 people writing just these e-mails, they were sort of monkeys chained to typewriters or computers, i guess. they also had an entire digital analytics team that would run controlled a.b. testing of each of these different e-mails. they would find the one that worked, and then they would blast that out to their e-mail list of tens of millions of supporters who dutifully would chip in more and more money. i
just how bad mitt romney lost, look at this picture of him. this is apparently mitt romney at a mcdonald's on the same day that he had lunch with the president, actually having a mcflurry. that is how bad things have got. >> i don't think it's bad. >> you are trying to convince me it wasn't a terrible beating. look at the man. >> it's painful. it was painful but it wasn't like the reagan/mondale, that kind of situation. that's a great picture of mitt romney. i don't think -- he's probably got, the money the guy has, he goes to mcdonald's. sometimes that's why rich people are rich. they don't waste their money. >> i know he likes mcdonald's, actually. when i interviewed him in london in the summer, it was literally an hour after he had come out with all these criticism of the olympics and how badly it was all being organized by the british and of course, the british took very badly to his comments, and mitt romney arrived at the location for our interview and all he said to me was i need a mcdonald's and i need it fast. >> sometimes you just need your mcdonald's. >> i think he needs
about what mitt romney has been up to including having a non-home-cooked thanksgiving dinner. he ordered in from boston market for the family saying there were too many kids running around to be cooking. >> peter: how the mighty have fallen. >> photographed pumping his gas since he has no entourage to the pump it for him. >> a sad story, nothing to do. >> peter: i don't feel that bad about it. hanging out with his car elevator taking rides. spiritists one of his many homes. >> the author of the hunger games trilogy is taking a break by writing a children's picture book an auto guy graphic piece about coping with her father's military service in vietnam as told through pictures. >> bill: all right, dan, thank you. all of the talk on the sunday shows yesterday and talk here in washington is still about negotiations to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. i think it's time to call it out. i am tired of all of the crap. let's go to the chase this morning and say there is only one person standing in the way of resolving this fiscal cliff, john boehner.
in human events. he says this is worse than romney's 47% comment. a brutal insult to american character, saying that americans are envious and children' morale will perk up when he they see their class enemies getting hit with higher taxes. and i said a year ago that warren buffett, this is not the leeacy he wants to leave, i don't think, but he's going to be really, really diminishing his power and influence. stuart: do you think it has been diminished? >> the general public it on to that. he's not talking for greater good of the american people when he makes statements that. when is he the voice of the rich in the country. and he's far richer than anybody making $250,000 a year. >> won't help the economy and reduce the deficit and make the middle class. >> here you go, charles, your chance. >> you know it's despicable and being honest, he's being dishonest because he keeps-- the op-ed, for instance, in the new york times, the first half talks about the forbes 400, the 400 people on matt lawyer yesterday talks about the richest 1% of 1% and somehow segues to people making $250,000 a ye
invited governor mitt romney to join him in the private dining room at the white house. in recent weeks, we've only had rare glimpses of governor romney -- pumping gas. there he was. at disneyland. and enjoying thanksgiving in his kitchen. tomorrow, we are told that lunch with the president will not have any press present. >>> and now, we have startling new details about the fire that killed more than 100 workers trapped inside their factory in bangladesh, making clothes for a lot of american companies. abc's chief investigative correspondent brian ross is back tonight with what the survivors now say really happened. >> reporter: survivors of the factory fire told human rights investigators today they were actually locked in by security gates as the flames spread. managers apparently thought it was a false alarm and did not want employees to leave their sewing machines where they were making goods for the christmas rush in america. >> they were prevented by the factory management to escape from the factory when the workers hear the fire alarm. >> reporter: scores of workers were trapped
: my goodness. i understand mitt romney is coming to the white house for that lunch. i don't know, what is everybody expect to come from that? >> the president said the president wanted to talk to governor romney about ideas to make it more efficient. praising the management of the 2002 olympics, said he did a good job there. governor romney is one that raised the ideas happen deductions for tax for people to come up with as far as tax reform, come up with more tax revenue. melissa: thank you so much for your input, peter barnes. lori: what is on the menu? got to give a shout out. there is another battle brewing over the fiscal cliff, instead congress and the white house, this one happening on twitter. melissa: dennis kneale is covering the story with the latest. i love this one. >> the obama administration renowned for the use of social networks but this time maybe it outdid itself. the president urging americans to tweet their support for using the hash tag mo farah, as in my $2000, raised taxes on somebody else. now my2k has become a way to trash obama and cheering at the democrats.
mitt romney to the white house on thursday. with washington deadlocked, president obama reached out to his former rival, inviting mitt romney to lunch at the white house, aiming to put past differences to rest. >> i think that he's very interested in some of governor romney's ideas. >> reporter: romney arrived shortly after noon thursday. white house officials revealed few details about the lunch, saying only they ate white turkey chili, and the meeting lasted more than an hour, with governor romney congratulating the president on re-election. in the sole picture released by the white house, you can see the dining room where the men ate and boxing gloves. aides joked there were no punches thrown describing the encounter as friendly. >> i am happy to see this picture, it is good for the american people. >> reporter: a very different tone on capitol hill as fiscal cliff negotiations remain rocky. the president sent his top negotiator, treasury secretary tim geithner to meet with congressional leaders. afterward, house speaker john boehner said the white house had not proposed spending
, romney to meet for lunch at white house. the white house revealed that the men will have lunch in the private dining room of the white house. it will be their first extensive meeting ever other than their three debates during the fall campaign. they have had only a few brief encounters. while in washington, mr. romney also reportedly will visit with his former running mate paul ryan of wisconsin who is heavily golved in the g.o.p.'s negotiations with the obama administration to solve the government's fiscal cliff. since the election, mr. rom knit has secluded himself from the media at his southern california home making no public appearances but has bad photographed killing his car at a local gas station and taking a day trip with his grandchildren to nearby disneyland. linden in bristol, virginia on our democrats line. the g.o.p. says to address the spending problem, what do you think? caller: i kind of agree more with the president that it should be a balanced approach. yes, we probably do have a spending problem. i agree. but i definitely believe that there is a problem with
and give the election to mitt romney. it made it harder for voters who moved to actually cast ballots. the republican party of florida has responded and tell "outfront," i want to quote them here, jim greer's quotes are false and details keep changing. great to have both of you. roland, let me start with you. these accusations come from jim greer, former boss of the party. he is accused of stealing money from the party. accusations come from charlie crist who abandoned the party to run as an independent. all that context is important. are these claims credible, though? >> for two years i've been blasting these efforts in florida as outright voter suppression and it is no shock to me that you're actually hearing this. it goes beyond just shortening early voting days. remember, they got rid of voting on sunday. now, in a country where you want more people voting, why would you take away a day when people would say, hey, no need to go to the polls tuesday, i can actually vote on that particular sunday. >> i don't know why we vote on a tuesday other side -- >> -- those churches that were
is if romney gets elected, they might actually do what they say they might do. the remarkable feature found that your best hope is one of the candidates in his plans. we sit now on all stagnation this couldn't be for the distribution process on what they call the research writing the wages down weakening the bargaining power. inequality has become a serious problem in the united states. what's interesting is while paul has been arguing about it and i've been arguing with for a long time as we've gotten so serious that even the economists realize that it is a serious problem. when they say it is a serious problem, you've got to believe it. it's my job to take them on. so, and one of the reasons that it weakens the economy and emphasizes the problem right now is the lack of demand. lack of total demand coming and that means people are not buying as many goods and economies and capacities as produced and that leads to unemployment. the problem is if you transfer money to the bottom of the economic pyramid to the top, the people at the top save about 15% of their income and the people at the bo
they can have money. that is what they need. what is funny in all of this, mitt romney got a lot of flak after the election when he said that he felt obama won the election because obama promised american voters gifts and free things. he got a lost flak from democrats and republicans. look, this is exactly what mitt romney was talking about. here is someone saying, wait, i voted for you, obama, now give me the free stuff. this is exactly what mitt romney was talking about. >>eric: president obama ran the last campaign on things are getting better. give me for more years we are almost there. a very good indication of things are really getting better in the economy is food stamp use. food stamps are up to a record level. november showed 46 million people on food stamps. if things are getting better, how does that keep going up? >>guest: exactly. if you remember back during the campaign, obama was going around bragging saying, i saved detroit with the bailout. really? you saved detroit? is that why detroit is coming begging right now for money? it is insane. he is completely out of touch an
tumble because it was conventional wisdom that if governor romney was in the white house that was a plus for coal stocks, and a negative if it was president obama? > > i think you saw that across the board in that sector, though i will say that wlt really started falling much before the election, much before november, and then just kind of an accelerated down to this $30 level. > we have been talking about china in the show today, and it turns out that yum! brands is actually kind of a china play out there. > > it really is. > what do you see in the charts for yum! brands? > > yum! brands is almost a bellwether or the benchmark for that sector in china. in fact, yum!, almost 50% of their revenues and profits come from china. they just lowered their guidance. just a few days ago they lowered their guidance going in for next year. is it just a slowdown for the macro china economy, or is it really just specific to yum!? we saw yum! really top out last week around that $72, $73 level, and it backed off almost 10%. it's trading around $67, which was somewhat of a support. it has tried to rall
at harvard kennedy school where right this very minute senior campaign managers from the romney and obama campaign and every other campaign are being debriefed by top political reporters and it is interesting because obama clearly sees that he has a mandate out of the election on fiscal cliff issues. even though it wasn't a huge issue in the debate the white house is behaving like it has that mandate. what you have been seeing is republicans showing signs of flexibility and i am not just talking john boehner saying revenue is on the table. we have republican senators saying they will stand up to the grover norquist tax pledge. they're willing to break it which is pretty big news. we also have the influential member of congress, republican tom cole saying we have got to agree to extend the tax cut just for those people making $250,000 and below and letting the more wealthy be taxed. definitely flexibility but what you see from democrats is an unwillingness to do serious entitlement reform that would lead to reductions in spending. they want to kick the can down the road and do more of the
is now teaming up with the president, despite the fact they supported mitt romney. they are now teaming up -- >> eating you, crawling back? >> looks like they are forcing -- they are forcing the issue, and, basically, supporting the president's position on this for higher taxes on those upper brackets. little bit of background on tom. he was a senior executive at morgan stanley in a very big democratic operative, a senioo executive, then to be hillary clinton's number two of secretary of state, and rumored, rumor, it's in the wall street washington nexus, that if jack lew is treasury secretary, highly likely if you read the tea leaves, he gets jack's job as the chief of staff. interesting meeting. this guy is a key player in the obama administration. you know, there's lots of taj about coming back to wall street. he likes it down there, and he likes working there, and that he wants a higher position, and, you know -- >> down in wall street or washington? >> washington. washington's south; right? >> of here. >> wall street's south of here too. >> but down, down there. the meetings are ab
that president obama will be better for business than mitt romney, but just before that second obama term begins, he's getting a dividend. mr. senegal and the rest of the costco board voted this week to give themselves a special dividend, a 3 billion dollar christmas gift for shareholders that will allow them to be taxed at the current rate of 15% rather than next year's rate of over 40%. and costco is just one of many companies making these one-time cash payouts in a move that will save stocks holders like senegal unless in dividend taxes. and so, mary, turns out maybe taxes do influence investor behavior. what's the meaning of the great cashout of 2012? >> well, don't tax you, don't tax me, tax the guy behind the tree. >> paul: russell long, former late senator. >> exactly. and what you see here are very wealthy people who can, you know, engineer ways to avoid taxes, meanwhile, what he's-- the medicine he's suggesting for people who are starting to do better, people who say, make $200,000, maybe working their whole life. they're the ones who are going to get hit with the obama taxes and really
are absolutely right. mitt romney got 27% of latino votes. president bush got 44% when he won re-election back in 2004. do you think he could have made a difference? would he have made a difference for mitt romney if he had stepped in earlier in the debate and said, look, you know what, i believe mitt romney supports latino community and here is why? >> no, and i don't think he should have. look, suzanne, let's face it. mitt romney dug his own hole, and he is now laying in his own grave. i think, you know, for president bush it was important, and i haven't spoken to him, but i just, you know, knowing the bushes, they don't get into the fray of other people's politics, and they defer to that nominee. they defer to that candidate when it is his turn to be the candidate, but i think this issue is just important to them. it's been important to them their entire life. he has had, you know, great relationships with hispanics across texas and also across the nation. it is true, as i said to you, for the entire bush family. it's something they've always embraced diversity and seen the positive in immi
. you remember mitt romney said he would declare them immediately if he became president. they do a report twice a year on whether the countries are manipulating their currency to try to gain trade advantages. a lot of people feel china is doing that. despite the decision not to declare them as such, the administration says the chinese yen remains significantly under valued 16-cents to every u.s. dollar. that makes it a lot easier to buy our goods. bill: three minutes past the hour now. republicans sent to introduce their own version of the d.r.e.a.m. act called the aeu grieve act. achieve act. it would provide legal status for hundreds of undocumented aliens. republicans are serious about coughing this issue. >> we have to get this ball rolling. we have to have a discussion that is sensible, calm, that discusses all of the different aspects of the issue and this particular part of immigration reform seemed a logical place to begin. >> steve centanni is live in washington on this. steve, good morning. how would this fit for calls for comprehensive immigration reform? >> that is un
, i'm sorry, admiral. when governor romney said that, pointed that out to president obama in the debate, he was -- we had horses and bayonets, too. he seemed to make light of that. how important is it? can you give us a sense of the impact? >> i think the president's comment is showing his inexperience in military matters. in this particular case we are going down to 220 ships. to put that number in perspective, i had 2505 ships under my command in the pacific fleet's. 20 percent of those 220 ships will be the literal combat ships which basically have no offensive or defensive capability. we are going to be challenged where we show weakness. and let me give you an example. just today china announced effective january 1 they have authorized their paramilitary naval forces and their police to stop all vessels in the south china sea that they consider to be there illegally if they have not requested permission. this must be rejected in the most strongest terms. this hits at the core capability of international maritime law, freedom of transit, freedom of navigation rights. lo
that was directed at mitt romney who is seen not as a business guy which is how he wanted to be seen but as a wall street guy, as a financial guy, someone taking too much advantage. one of the take aways from the last election was a wall street that was really damaged by this president and has done a lousy job addressing people's feelings, over the course of the past few years, i don't think that is the case. i really think we have a problem that is getting worse and more challenging and likely to provoke more, not fewer, uprisings of the tight you solid occupy or the tea party. >> host: you have had several careers including serving as undersecretary of commerce in the clinton administration, managing director of the kissinger associates and and a former businessman. is being capital type of operation a black rock type operation healthy for our economy? >> guest: it is essentials for the economy. it needs private equity, an innovator to go to somebody with capital and be able to applies at capital to they're big ideas and help from grow and help to create jobs. does that mean bane or black rock n
romney tried to make the case that occurred as is making. it has failed miserably. it has failed in history. if it fails from campaign economics. the bush tax cuts disproportionately benefit high- income people. if we get rid of those we will save a lot of money and there is minimal risk to the short term income. high income, whether you are with a wall street bond trader or a ceo of a corporation, they tend to be less vulnerable to the ups and downs of their income and middle class people. we need to support those people. that will lock in savings again. host: next caller. caller: why can't we do away with the federal reserve? if they don't have borrowing power, they do not have debt. that we cannot borrow money from china. let's do away with it. everybody buckle down for a decade and let's get this thing came down. host: let's go to our next caller in massachusetts. the democrats line. caller: looking at the fiscal cliff, we go back to 2001 with the lowering of the tax rates, meant to create jobs. but in the past 10 or 11 years, we have not had any job creation whatsoever. we k
if romney was elected because he was speaking i me with them but today they got the boot. >> coal stocks up dramatically today. walter energy refuse to comment on the entrance in them keeping the sector on fire. the et of jumping, names like james river and natural resources all above 3% or 1%. liz: costco hitting an all-time high, this is accompanied always gets props for great management but when you see a stock do that well, certainly the carry on top. >> since yesterday the vice president being there in washington d.c. and talking about how companies manage very well, their workers stay for a peers in anyway and stock heir hitting all-time high of $104.50 today. dave: let's look at the tech stocks, how they are rounding the end of this trading day, we have apple and zynga down, but facebook always likes to buck a trend. always -- it is of another 2% today. >> facebook has had a really nice run in the month of november. all that negative commentary disappearing. for the nasdaq, it had a great week up 1.5%
they didn't make it. ted cruz says that the real problem with mitt romney's disastrous 47% quote was that it accepted the notion that some people are rich. some people are poor. and that's how the pie looks. and then you redistribute among them. he's saying no. true conservatism -- and we've heard joe say this around the table -- >> absolutely. >> -- true conservatism means that everybody can do anything and that the republican party's missed that message. that's what they need to turn to. >> it's going to be interesting to see how they do that and if ted cruz becomes sort of the force in this. what do you think? what's your gut, mike? >> he's already offering himself -- he clearly wants to play that role. >> yeah. >> he said last night, i'm something that's not supposed to exist, a hispanic republican. so ted cruz is one of the most interesting parts of this reinvention of the republican party. another part of it, the new emphasis on immigration. >> yes. >> the effort to reach hispanics. we have a story up today saying that already republicans are going to pieces over this. that
, congressional republicans as well as barack obama and if mitt romney had become president the same thing, and the last-- absolutely. stuart: we're going to unleash borrowing? >> i think what we need-- >> take off that ceiling and allow the the president to spend what he wants and therefore, borrow. >> let's talk about your friend reagan, i think 18 times he raised the debt ceiling, so, nobody held him hostage the full faith and credit. stuart: if we do that now, no limit, there's no debt ceiling at all, and president obama could just, just borrow it. no one from congress, but borrow it, what happens. >> would i love to see some responsibility on behalf of congressional leaders. stuart: you don't think we'd get a debt crisis. >> been threatening bond vigilantes and things in the past five years, i haven't seen it yet. stuart: unfortunately we're out of time, but i love that smile. >> thank you, i love being on with you, despite the fact, talking-- the highlight of my day knowing i was going to be with you. stuart: and i do not believe you. >> it's 100% true. it's true. stuart: julie, than
. it's like mitt romney's dumb press conference the day after libya exploded and the ambassador died. there is a time and place -- there are so many ways to go after susan rice. >> and there are real questions on whether she even has the temperament to be secretary of state. that's a big question in washington, d.c. let me say it again. does susan rice have the temperament to be secretary of state? there are a lot of people, democrats who will tell you privately that just maybe she doesn't. but we're not talking about this. this is a clown show that's going on right now. what is -- >> i love that debate. >> well, the long game is unclear and the short game is even more unclear because they're not going to hold up the nomination of susan rice. i meaning if you look at the big picture. they only need to peel off -- i don't know what the number is five or six republican senators. >> who do they end up making stronger? >> they make the obama white house or susan rice look stronger but fighting the fight, three, four, five of them on a losing cause and won't hold up the nomination with fo
committee. lou: he just lost his state in a national election. >> romney lost the state. the unemployment rate in ohio has gone down was due to policies. >> sorry about these governors. they have made there stay solvent. but look. -- [talking over each other] >> if i may. my heart is filled with excitement. i am so excited as i hear you tell me how good things are at the state level. there are governors out there. there are state legislatures, 26 of them controlled by republicans. i am not suggesting that the republican party has disappeared i am suggesting that national leaders to deal with the white house in a campaign structure@ that is still campaigning relentlessly after winning a presidential election -- >> the speaker has not buckled. he said la land. lou: did he say lolland all by himself? >> this is serious. here is what we can do. here is what we want to do. take the politics out of it. they'd be partisan is this right now. a higher probability they can come to a deal or look like heroes. if they try to make this work there will be in very serious trouble for some time to come.
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